Ugh, fail.

The Guardian comments sections are a trashbag of political censorship and general idiocy, but I see no evidence that they are being trolled by the Kremlin. A whole lot of people THINK they are, and the Guardian has levelled such accusations (without presenting evidence) but my own experience is that I am routinely accused of working for the Kremlin there, based on no evidence at all. Their view is simply "you disagree with me therefore you must be a paid troll". Making things worse: the Guardian moderators delete vast numbers of comments that would be considered completely acceptable anywhere else, merely for questioning what their articles say.

I think the only way to respond to government-sponsored trolling is to just ignore it. Who cares what someone's motivation is? The only practical response is the same anyway: answer back and be more convincing than they are.

I've found the CBC comment moderators like that as well. The moderation policy is essentially, "Don't be vulgar or threatening"

Yet comments that violate the policy but agree with CBC writers views are allowed while polite, ad-hominem free dissenting comments are removed.

When there's too much dissent comments are simply closed.

Right. The Guardian has a rule that you're not allowed to insult the journalists. Unfortunately, suggesting that they're wrong, biased or maybe didn't do their homework is routinely considered to be insulting the journalists :(

> The Guardian comments sections are a trashbag of political censorship and general idiocy, but I see no evidence that they are being trolled by the Kremlin. A whole lot of people THINK they are, and the Guardian has levelled such accusations (without presenting evidence) but my own experience is that I am routinely accused of working for the Kremlin there, based on no evidence at all.

For me the strongest evidence (still non-conclusive obviously) is the fact that the users who are heavily pro-Putin, while clearly being a minority on the forums, almost always get ridiculous amounts of upvotes. For example, for a typical political comment on the forum, getting 50-100 upvotes is rare, while these pro-Putin posts routinely pull 200-500.

That's not evidence. That's another supposition. Again, you're just assuming that because a viewpoint you disagree with seems popular it must be due to some kind of manipulation.

That's the thing though - these posts clearly don't represent a majority in terms of volume and yet they get obcenely large number of upvotes.