So the iPhone was so great because it was so popular? Isn't that a bit self referential?
Actually the stylus is pretty powerful. I'm considering getting one for my new Magic. Apart from being able to hand write it is quicker to type as well.
> processed bologna and ever-delicious bacon are the same because people call them both meat.
Seems like some people don't like being reminded of the truth. Every time you mention bacon it brings up images of animals being forced to spend their lives in cruel and squalid conditions. But it is better than the cognitive dissonance that consumers experience when you point this out.
Regarding your comment about the stylus, which was relevant: Any system that doesn't require an extra, easily-lost piece to use is good; I type faster than I handwrite; bullshit re:typing faster. It's far more efficient to use two fingers with no disconnect from your muscle memory than it is to use a single digit that's got a few inches disconnect.
As for this little snipefest:
Look, dejb, it's not that we don't understand where you're coming from about the animals. We do. The problem is that rscott is using bacon/balogna as a comparison, and you're taking him literally. Want me to take your counterpoint literally? When I see a stylus, I see electrons. Fuck this argument, fuck this site, fuck this existence, it's electrons. You can't argue, you're a bucket of electrons. There. Now I've shat on this whole debate. Let's all go home rather than contemplate the cognitive dissonance that humans experience when you point this out.
"Bring it on"? You're a fucking commenter on a fucking Internet thread on a site that's about discussing fucking technology! I'm sorry, but I don't give a shit about your stance regarding animal rights when it's not relevant to this thread. Want my attention? Find a good article about what you think is interesting and submit it. I'd love to read more about this. I don't know a thing about it. But right now, we're discussing the iPhone, not fucking animals.
For the record, I have no cognitive dissonance thinking about bacon. I've never seen a dead pig and so the concept is abstract to me. I don't care to make it any more physical because first off, I don't eat bacon, and second off, I don't really give a damn about pigs. It's not in me. Perhaps I'm a psychopath or some shit. But you're either misguided or trolling, and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community. Cut it out.
Every time someone acts like a troll, we don't need to read through someone's witty retort in response. He's trolling, he knows it, we all know it, and he's downmodded to oblivion for it. That's enough.
For the first time in my life, I've wanted to save a comment. Bravo. I got a bit of a Tarantino vibe out of that comment which adds a whole other level of cool.
Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it? I actually thought my initial comment was pretty innocuous. The voting response to it at the time genuinely surprised me. Somehow it improved markedly since then, as if to invalidate my second comment.
Some people can just accept what they perceive as injustice. If someone had casually denigrated black skinned people in the fifties in southern US I like to think I would have found a way to let it be known that I didn't agree. Even if it wasn't the main topic of conversation.
> I'd love to read more about this.
> I don't really give a damn about pigs.
These comments appear to be self contradictory. Much of your post is nonsensical. The fact that so many people are prepared to agree with it astonishing.
> and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community.
The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling.
Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it?
What wasn't okay was that you ignored his entire point for the sake of stating your beliefs. If you'd stated what you did and then followed up with a counterpoint, then you wouldn't have been downvoted, wouldn't have had to bitch back at him, and I wouldn't have involved myself.
These comments appear to be self contradictory.
I'm willing to give a damn about pigs if you're able to convince me to. As it stands, a damn is not given but I'm willing to change my mind.
Much of your post is nonsensical.
No it's not.
The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling.
I hate any and all derails as obnoxious and self-inflated as yours was—not the original post, mind you, but the follow-up.
> What wasn't okay was that you ignored his entire point for the sake of stating your beliefs.
I replied to his iPhone related points first. Both of them.
> not the original post, mind you, but the follow-up.
When I posted the follow-up the original was at -4 votes in less than an hour on the first post. The vote-down to view ratio must have been off the charts. I was responding to the down voters. I know it is uncool and all to do this but I guess it must have had an effect.
The analogy here is this (in fifties southern US)
- Somebody makes a causally racist comment.
- I mention in my response that I disagree.
- Others express strong but inarticulate disapproval for my comment.
- I respond directly and unambiguously why I think racism is wrong.
- People seem a little less sure of themselves Re the first comment but they are really pissed at me.
- Our hero comes along and chides me for causing such a fuss in a rambling speech.
- The crowd erupts into applause. They didn't understand most of the speech or really care about what was said. But there brief encounter with the morality of their lives is over for now. And the person who has caused them discomfort has been put in their place without them (the crowd) having to articulate their own prejudices.
Actually the stylus is pretty powerful. I'm considering getting one for my new Magic. Apart from being able to hand write it is quicker to type as well.
> processed bologna and ever-delicious bacon are the same because people call them both meat.
They're both just dead animals to me.