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So, an audited port of openssl comes out and the discussion centers around:

1. why CVS sucks and the openbsd team should spend 3 months doing nothing but reworking their development processes so they can use git like all the cool ruby hackers.

2. Lack of formality in the release announcement

3. Choice of font

wow.



> an audited port of openssl comes out and the discussion centers around:

Exactly what kind of discussion were you hoping for here? We have a number of individuals frequenting this site with the skills to comment on this at a technical level, but they probably have other things to do then to show up for every story that hits the frontpage of HN and requires someone of their skillset to have a competent discussion of the technical details...

> they can use git like all the cool ruby hackers.

Though git has become widely accepted by the Ruby community, it was created by kernel hackers. Is Linus Torvalds now a 'hipster Ruby hacker' or can we elevate the level of discussion here above name-calling?

It also seems like you've missed comments like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8021965


There's a difference between the creator of a software system and who actually adopts it and advocates it in practice.

Yes, git did originally come from Linus and the Linux kernel development community. But since then, their original use of it has been eclipsed by the larger and more vocal GitHub/Ruby on Rails/JavaScript segment of software developers. The fact that both groups use git does not mean that they're otherwise connected in any way. Traits (such as the propensity to be a hipster) specific to one of the groups very likely do not apply to the other.

Many of these GitHub/Ruby on Rails/JavaScript people do advocate very loudly for git's use everywhere, even in situations where it is not the best choice, or even where it's obviously a bad choice. Some of them have elevated git from being a tool to a quasi-religion. They've done this with some of their other "chosen" tools, too, so it's not just limited to git.

They do make the git community as a whole look quite bad. But they're obviously very distinct and separate from the Linux kernel developers who created git. The two distinct groups should obviously not be confused.


This is called "bikeshedding" and it's inevitable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_law_of_triviality


Or perhaps like dogs peeing on lampposts - just leaving their mark. Most of these people are incapable of comprehending the internals of SSL or contributing to it, so they comment on trivialities (which they do not understand either). Dragging things down to their own level is another way of putting it.


You've just described bike shedding.


I am surprised that we haven't gotten discussion around point 4 ("Theo is an asshole, so is Linus, but Theo is worse"). These seem to be always present when anything related to OpenBSD is discussed. It's disappointing.


that's because CVS is shit and they should use git or mercurial.

and why should we trust an SSL tool that uses COMIC SANS on thier website. these LibReSSL dudes sound like idiot hipsters


"these LibReSSL dudes sound like idiot hipsters"

No, they're just poking fun at people like you :D


"This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters."


Hint: they are mocking you.


Honestly, if you're using windows (which, AFAIK, is the only OS that includes Comic Sans), why the are you complaining about being unable to trust security software from a certain provider?




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