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What I know of the Pirate Party is that they are suffering for their own collective weakness and inability to organize.

It is a fallacy that 'safety in (representative) numbers' is a way to organize a movement; big social movements need leaders who are able to demonstrate the cause, and Liquid Democracy dilutes this fact as much as it can - not because its proponents want to be successful, but because the idea of a benign leadership is abhorrent to those who want 'no leaders'.

Like it or not, we live in a world where nothing gets done if it depends on a committee to do it. This is a very difficult thing for the Pirate Party to deal with; since almost everything the Party tries to do must conform to the rules of consensus implied by the Liquid Democracy policies.

The Pirate Party's leadership is hamstrung by the requirement to get approval for everything, from their masses. Everything.

Eventually, the same thing will happen to the Pirate Party that happened to Socialism: its proponents will learn that capitalisation is very important to getting new ideas propagated among the masses. So far, the PP does not represent much of great value to the individual, and it has a very difficult time even agreeing, internally, on how to create any such value to sell to the people..



>almost everything the Party tries to do must conform to the rules of consensus implied by the Liquid Democracy policies.

Ever now and then somebody will pop up in the Pirate Party UK and suggest that we adopt Liquid Feedback like the German party does, and this is one of the most important reasons why we don't.

The UK party has a much more centralised leadership, while still facilitating membership decision-making over policy.




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