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Where are these "low-skilled" people you think should be paid less than $7.25 an hour going to live? Shanty towns? Tent cities?


Their parents' basement, usually. Low skilled jobs are frequently stepping stones or temporary respites on the way to better jobs. But if you yank them out of their reach, by jacking up the pay and so forcing the employers to either hire more productive workers or automate, the same people would be earning the true minimum wage - $0. And unlike the previous case, they would never gain any experience and use it to get the next, better job.


I hope you're aware not only youth work on minimum wage jobs. Some of them are not going to get better jobs (and aren't on their way there), they are stuck in those jobs and you are proposing they shouldn't ever see a raise because if not those jobs will cease to exist.

I'd like to see some hard data and sources for this assumption, it's quite a big one and since you started the argument with the unrealistic view that those jobs are only stepping stones to better ones or performed by youngsters with access to their parents' home I cannot trust your argument prima facie.


  >I'd like to see some hard data and sources for this assumption,
"prove that this illegal thing would be good systematically at a macro-economic level when it being illegal has not shown to be good"

  >this assumption, it's quite a big one and since you started the argument with the unrealistic view that those jobs are only stepping stones to better ones or performed by youngsters with access to their parents' home
Fuck, ya got me. Let's try the opposite: lets give economically vital careers to homeless babies... that makes a lot more sense.


It's better to have a job paying $5 an hour than no job at all, which is what you're proposing.


Yes.

That is where they live now, and are told they aren't allowed to work, or else their substituent welfare money they are dis-afforded (against their collective interests long term).

They can be something, and feel something, than the federal definition of "so low its illegal"

It also is blatantly unfair. Why enforce a minimum wage for legal workers, when illegal workers will ignore it (gun argument!?) and the border is open (but not for guns???).


> the border is open (but not for guns???).

The border is open for guns and it's a huge problem for Mexico to have a country with such insane gun policies next door.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/05/2...


That is the problem for the narco-state and its corrupt policies, and shitty corrupt border patrol/customs.

Our border is open to human trafficking, domestic infiltration, and massive practically a neo-chemical weapon.


> It also is blatantly unfair. Why enforce a minimum wage for legal workers, when illegal workers will ignore it?

Hm. That suggests an idea. A higher minimum wage for illegal workers.

Employers get a choice. Verify immigration status with E-Verify/RealID, and pay at least minimum wage. Or don't, and pay at least twice the minimum wage.

Offer sizable rewards for reporting wage theft. 3X penalty at least. Jail if the total stolen passes the felony threshold.

Now that would stop illegal aliens from taking low-end jobs in the US.


  >Now that would stop illegal aliens from taking low-end jobs in the US.

"twice minimum wage" may still be enough for employers looking to take advantage of those who don't know better.

You can be worth a million dollars but if you are lied to, you will work for bread.




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