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> In a discussion about whether or not Trump built a wall at US's southern border one does not need to bring up Jan 6th at all.

That's not how that discussion would actually go. Need has nothing to do with it, and the same holds true with Musk. The detached attacks don't need to be brought up in regards to a discussion about Musk & SpaceX, and yet they are guaranteed to come up regardless.

There is no discussion today of any meaningful length that is going to happen on a major public forum (eg Reddit) regarding Trump's border wall where the events of January 6 do not come up as a prominent matter of discussion.

The reason this happens is because the target (Trump, Musk, whatever) triggers people to such an extreme emotional degree they can't control themselves properly, they can no longer think & express rationally. They have basically been trained into a hyper emotional response by the mob they participate with. It's some manner of one-upmanship, virtue signaling as competition: who can most greatly beat this target to death, using any means necessary.



In this context, the fact that he's had numerous dud companies does need to come up because it's actually very much on topic.

Let's reflect on how we got here.

1) xutopia is making the claim [1] (on a thread about how Twitter's rebrand could be a nightmare) that Musk's actions would've costed any other CEO their job.

2) mettamage countered with Musk has only had 1 dud company so far [2]

3) And that leads us to this oversized thread where yes Musk has had many dud companies and "only 1" isn't correct.

Whether or not Musk is correct on the Thai diver being a pedophile would not belong in this oversized thread though and as you may not have yet noticed; wasn't brought up. It is in fact possible to have a discussion on a forum (perhaps not major) without bringing up tangential points. Some people can control themselves and so far in this oversized thread they have; it's been very on point besides this meta discussion.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36861849

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36863091




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