I get why many people dislike the idea of working on those skills. The way you put it, some people might go like “I’m not playing ‘games’ like that, and I’m proud of it!”

So, the way I think about it instead is that I’m just another type of system that can be maintained, improved, evolved. And my communication with others is simply an interface. And, well, any engineer can grasp the idea that easy to use and well thought out interfaces are valuable and worth working on.