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Or bragging about a pet project they made with vanilla HTML/CSS/JS that's any or multiple of:

* not particularly impressive in terms of UI requirements

* likely took them 10x the amount of time it would have taken if they just used a framework

* doesn't make any API calls

* doesn't manage any/much state

* is composed of code that no one else would be able to easily hop into and refactor if working in a team scenario



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