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>We've done that experiment. The results are self-evident

I think the real experiment is perpetual consumerism and unchecked global free market capitalism.

Some places that could be considered a UBI welfare state would be Scandinavian countries or parts of Canada, hardly examples of self-evident failures.



>Some places that could be considered a UBI welfare state would be Scandinavian countries or parts of Canada

Canada does not have any UBI. What are you referring to?


The welfare and employment insurance system in parts of Canada (ie: those parts with little or seasonal employment) are effectively UBI.


EI is not even close to what is commonly described as UBI. Not universal at all.


Welfare and EI combined = jury rigged UBI




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