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"unprofessional" is the wrong word. It's simply punk/brutalist.

You can find a similar aesthetic in many art spaces:

https://rhizome.org/events/

https://indigo.ooo/en/

https://2019.indigo.ooo/en/

https://2017.indigo.ooo/en/



Punk is explicitly unprofessional.

> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."

That punk is treated as a serious artistic subject does not conflict with that. There's lots of other unprofessional subjects and motifs in art spaces, e.g., nudity.


> Punk is explicitly unprofessional.

punk is dead,

It's just another cheap product for the consumer's head.

Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,

Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.

Cbs promoted the clash,

But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.

Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be

And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.

- Crass

Anything is professional these days as long as you can sell things with it.


> punk is dead

I heard he was reborn as a cryptobro


… no? Although I do prefer my full title of “lord cyberpunk, sir lagavulin-consumer, the 1st Earl of pimpistan” if we’re being formal.


professional unprofessional. we can surely agree to disagree. the web site is well made. nothing unprofessional about it.


Unprofessional is not a synonym for bad. It does not mean poorly made.


"Unprofessional" only makes sense in the context of some particular profession. Many English dictionary definitions even explicitly mention something like "the expectations of a particular profession." I'm pretty sure there still are professional standards for doing graphic design work for a punk art organization. And you wouldn’t say that a plumber is coveralls is dressing unprofessionally. The word “unprofessional” doesn’t just mean “anything that’s different than a stock photo of a banker.”


In this case, the context is software development, and we are discussing advertising/marketing/landing material on the sales website. The OP website dramatically departs from the expectations of this profession. The OP is not selling art.


Did I state it was bad? or did I imply it was poorly made? I think it is a very well thought out, and well implemented website. Professionality and quality used in same context is mutually exclusive.


You've misunderstood me. I'm saying your previous comment implied that someone else must think the website is poorly made when they call it unprofessional.


> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."

Substitute "Punk" for e.g. "Group" and read that sentence again.


And?? With the substitution reads like someone describing a punk/anarchy group.


I think he means something like this: (monty Python)

https://youtu.be/KHbzSif78qQ?t=35


They maybe anti of many things but still have aesthetics..


I hate to ask, but are you fun at parties?


They have a point though.


Quite a few examples of this aesthetic can be found on Brutalist Websites[0]. (Be forewarned, the Brutalist Websites site itself is brutal in a different way: it tries to load hundreds of high-res screenshots all at once.)

[0] https://brutalistwebsites.com/


https://dreamcult.xyz/

I like this one


Reminds me of a quote from Bill Murray's character in The French Dispatch: "Just Try To Make It Sound Like You Wrote It That Way On Purpose."


This aesthetic brings back memories. I remember it was a look about 10 years ago with blogs like Hipster Runoff using it.


https://neocities.org is a fun one.


Appealing to a small minority that is not your target group. Hence unprofessional.


I agree with sentiment, it"s slightly sophiscated and good haha!


Brutalist? What does it have to do with concrete?


usepath.com (YC S19) kinda has this feel too, I think I get it.




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