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Just got a new mac. It doesn't require it, but

- They ask you to when you buy it

- They ask you to in an email after you buy it

- It prompts you during install

- It prompts you right after you installed

- It prompts you when you try and update the non-operating-system software that came with the computer, and doesn't let you upgrade it if you don't create one.

And probably a whole lot more prompts that I missed.

It also uses dark patterns to imply that you must enter payment information for you account. Took me 15 minutes of googling to figure out how to create one without entering payment information.

So... "no".



macOS does that, but I find Windows 10 to be way, way worse. There's an option in one of the setup screens, but good luck finding it. They really make it hard to use a local account (or at least used to - I haven't reinstalled Windows in 2 years).


I'm torn on which is worse, I've helped people set up windows computers on the most recent iteration and was equally unimpressed.

Windows hides the option more, mac holds updating offline apps hostage, safari browser extensions hostage, and tries to trick you into entering payment information.

Both are terrible.


I think you need to not setup internet connection to be able to not use MS account.




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