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I think the new Zen 3 stuff is pretty good, but your take is highly biased. Objectively, the 10900K came out 6 months ago. The Ryzen 5000 series came out, effectively, at some point in the future. It's not in stock anywhere and nobody owns one. Using the benchmarks in this article, the Ryzen 5950X is 2% faster.

As far as stuff you can buy today there's Apple way out in front (if you can live with their RAM configs) followed distantly by last year's i9, then there's AMD.



It's not biased to say that a newer product won at something, let alone highly biased. And I didn't dispute the stock issues.

> nobody owns one.

https://i.imgur.com/8EMeiCZ.png

This is only one source, but the 10900 numbers since launch are dwarfed by the 5800X numbers since launch. For the people building PCs with this site, Zen 3 chips are currently outselling all of Intel combined.

> Using the benchmarks in this article, the Ryzen 5950X is 2% faster.

I think this article is all single core stuff. Which is the aspect they "finally managed" to win at. It's not their strength at all, it's the thing Intel was able to lord over them. Should I have said "barely" in addition to "finally managed"? I thought it was clear enough.


The Denver, CO Microcenter gets about 20 5950X chips every week it seems. Many more of the other models, of course.

It took me a while of waiting but I finally got mine a couple of weeks ago. It is pretty nice.

Since the chips sell out in the same day they arrive at the store you won't ever see them "in stock" but obviously, out of all the chip models at least 100 new PC enthusiasts every week own one just from that one store.

I also know several friends of mine who finally received their prebuilt gaming systems with Ryzen 5800 or 5900 chips and Nvidia 3080's. There was a lot of delay but the OEMs are shipping a lot of boxes.




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