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> So by your logic then, WhatsApp provides privacy?

By your logic by my logic then Zoom provides privacy if you pay them. This is obviously the opposite of what I said. The most private solution is end to end encrypted and doesn't require a credit card and doesn't collect metadata etc.

> Privacy is full of tradeoffs. Security isnt.

Everything is full of trade offs. How can privacy be full of trade offs and security not when privacy is a subset of security?



> The most private solution is end to end encrypted and doesn't require a credit card and doesn't collect metadata etc.

The most private solution actually doesn't involve a computer at all. It's not very useful though.

> How can privacy be full of trade offs and security not when privacy is a subset of security?

See my initial comment: > Security with encryption is about trust guarantees.

I'm not meaning "cybersecurity" when I say security here. I'm talking specifically about the security of encryption. Privacy and crypto security are two distinct concepts within cybersecurity.

Privacy hides the existence of a thing. Encryption (security) keeps the thing safe.




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