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Careful with your "you guys". I'm a leftist, and I advocate for health care as a human right.

In the USA, labor rights were earned by literally committing armed rebellion against corporate "company towns" [0], as in the West Virginia coal wars [1]. Without this, the USA would not have weekends or eight-hour workdays.

Even if Amazon did not exist, Facebook would still need a lot of computers and Google would still have a lot of spare compute, so public clouds might still happen. And if they didn't, well, maybe that's not a bad thing! It's not clear that public clouds are good.

The Washington Post is older than Bezos; it turns 143 this year [2]. Without Bezos, perhaps the paper would be dead right now, but perhaps it would be thriving, since the paywall on their online content was only built after Bezos took over.

I find your view "not even wrong" [4]; your history of the issue is so shallow that I can't even critique it without first establishing the historical context.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_coal_wars

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong



Why don’t you have free health care, free education and that stuff? Are you honestly citing a 100 year old riot as a proof the American people want it? Obviously they 1) don’t or 2) want it but can’t have it.

I mean, at least we have established that it’s not Amazon but “the system and everybody else” is the problem.




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