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Just don't visit nytimes.com, and you'll never have any further interaction with them.

The same is not true of Facebook.



How is it that I will have any interaction with Facebook if I stop visiting it? I have a Facebook account, never use it, never hear anything from Facebook.


Even if you don’t have an account, FB cookies and tracking are everywhere. You see a « like » button ? FB just update the cookie on your browser and noted it somewhere!

Of course, if you have browser plugins blocking that it’s better.

But else, as soon you’re browsing the web, you have a good chance that Google and FB knows about it


Can you please cite a source that confirms what you are saying about like buttons being used for tracking?

I am asking because while I am aware that Facebook could in theory use these buttons to track you, I am not aware that they actually do! We need to be careful when criticizing (and demonizing) these companies that we stay with the facts!

I am all for calling them out for their shit...but let’s keep it real please!


There has been plenty of reports of people not having a Facebook account, then signing up and suddenly having ads regarding stuff they've seen on the internet before, showing that Facebook keeps tabs on people who aren't even on the network yet, just in case they decide to join (or if they find another way to advertise to them without them joining).


That is simple ad retargeting and has nothing to do with like buttons!

Many ad platforms offer this feature and it’s fairly simple todo from a technical stand point.

Really the technology that enables it is not even something Facebook built! It’s your freakin browser! If you don’t want to get retargeted, just start using a different one...vote with your browser folks!

I can’t believe I am saying this, but the html web browser is not the ultimate sophistication! There was a world before it and there will be a world after! And what propels this process is users voting with the choice of browser!


It's not exactly an article proving it: https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17427000/wwdc-apple-safari...

And here is what Facebook is doing to fight third-party cookie blocking on Safari and Firefox: https://www.adweek.com/programmatic/the-facebook-pixel-will-...


What safari/Firefox block is tracking pixels that the provider of the site has setup on purpose to track his ecommerce conversion funnel!

It has nothing todo with any like buttons!


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I know this must be obvious to everyone else, but:

No, NYTimes is not spamming HN. People are submitting stories from the NYT every day because the NYT is full of great journalism and interesting stories. I've submitted a bunch of them. Sure, it contains a lot of junk, too - doesn't make the good stuff spam.


Do the letters nytimes bother you for some reason? HN lists the domain next to each link which makes actually visiting the site easy to avoid. Some people here find it interesting to read.




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