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I'm not seeing HP or Dell selling locked Windows PCs on which you cannot install Linux.


Let's get straight on what we are discussing here.

We are talking normal consumers no hackers.

No one beside a small fraction of this world cares what operating system they have or can have. They change OS when they buy a new computer.


Trusted Computing (this shit Apple is doing right now with the iTunes store and iOS) was dismissed by consumers and by hardware manufacturers (besides Intel).

Normal people don't care for their OS, but they care about installing whatever they want on their PC, no matter the source or function.

And you know what? All the friends I have with non-technical skills that own a gaming consoles (about a dozen of them) ... have had those consoles unlocked.

The reason gaming consoles come locked is piracy, since most profits come from selling games. This is not the same situation with PCs or with phones for that matter.


Trusted Computing (this shit Apple is doing right now with the iTunes store and iOS) was dismissed by consumers and by hardware manufacturers (besides Intel).

You're seriously wrong here. I mean, this statement alone makes me think you have no idea what you're talking about. Care to clarify what you meant by that? Or even what you meant by Trusted Computing (because your current definition is definitely incorrect).


I hope you are just joking.

Dismissed as reflected in what? Apples latest quarterly results? Their overall success?

How has the consumer dismissed trusted computing.

Normal people don't install things. It's really as simple as that.

Before the iphone most people didn't even know what an app was.


Trusted Computing is a technology that was promoted by the Trusted Computing Group (IBM, Intel, Microsoft, HP, big enough for you?).

Over 90% of PCs are Wintel. Apple's market is a niche.

Apple's shit I'm talking about is similar, but different: we aren't talking about over 1 billion people (more like 50 million).

> Normal people don't install things

You're the one that must be joking.


You seem to have forgotten completely what this discussion is all about. When you can put the trolling behind you perhaps you can explain to me since when market size is an indicator of best product.

And no I am not joking. Most people use the browser and that is really it. This is why many people think that Google is their browser.




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