Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

The point is that this discussion here is about the specific posted story and related stuff. Anything else is OT here.

In almost every case, when some positiv story A about X is posted, some people feel the need for some reason to point out some unrelated negative stuff B about X.

If you want to talk about B, do that in the specific HN post, not in the unrelated post about A.

If you have the feeling that people have talked to less about B in general and there is no good post on HN about it, write an own story and post it.



I agree, it's a bit of a meta-comment on the sad state of the Apple user-community. I read through probably a full 100 comments in this thread and found myself become more and more annoyed at the lack of basic critical thinking on display. In particular, Apple's done an interesting thing with the LED scheme on some of their hardware. It's a nice touch. It deserves to be noticed. It's interesting that it has never really been copied. Perhaps Apple's industrial design is really a generation or two ahead of the rest of the industry -- that's noteworthy and praiseworthy.

But an interesting LED scheme is immediately extrapolated in the article and by the vast majority of the posts here as indicative of the overall attention to detail Apple puts into its products. I'm simply trying to point out that this extrapolation is nonsensical and wrong by bringing up that Apple actually is good at detail in some areas, not so good in others. Therefore, attention to the detail in how the lights blink is not necessarily indicative of attention to detail in all areas. That seems pretty straightforward and logical to me. Supporting my supposition that critical thinking is clearly not part of the grotesque fawning going on here, here is the kinds of responses I get for putting forward an entirely logical, critical statement.

dieterrams - who is about as gushing a fanboy as the Apple ecosystem can produce.

"Your criticism is silly, and smacks of typical, petty anti-Apple resentment."

"You lost any pretense of trying to provide the voice of reason here."

This is the same person who's response to the OT was "The moment I realized the LED was mimicking breathing (I first experienced it with a white iMac) was the moment I realized just how far Apple goes to make computers for humans. Truly personal computers." Very poetic and followed by a few dozen responses about how, yes, Apple is truly breathtaking and Ive and Jobs are geniuses, etc. etc.

epochwolf & powrtoch - who both asked a variation of the same question.

"Would you mind providing a few examples instead of citing an amorphous large list?"

And at risk of incurring more downvotes from the dieterrams of the world, I responded that no, I won't. All anybody has to do is use their products and read a bit of tech news. Apple's products are full of problems and issues. From lower than average hardware reliability for the industry to wireless signal loss, industry trailing video card drivers or just outright poor design decisions like various gafaws with their input devices -- even things that simple extended reliability testing should expose occur far too frequently and don't appear nearly as often in competitor's products like poor material selection. I shouldn't have to go and research and provide a list of all the nit picky problems Apple has in their products line-up.

Anybody who is paying attention should be able to see them if they aren't spending their entire day trying not to.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: