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I've tried 4G networks on every continent and multiple devices and I haven't seen 450Mbit anywhere be really commercially really available.

Infact most "4G" networks out there give you less speed than what HSUPA/HSDPA 3G/3.5G networks could theoretically provide.

But even if you had those speeds the low bandwidth makes h.265 attractive not because of max download/upload speed but because of datacaps, if you only have 2GB of cellular data each month and you can have a video codec that both allows you to conduct video calls in suboptimal conditions as well at 1/5th or so of the bitrate that h.264 needs for similar visual quality it's really a no brainer which one you use.



> Infact most "4G" networks out there give you less speed than what HSUPA/HSDPA 3G/3.5G networks could theoretically provide.

I never got much more than 10-20 Mbps out of HSDPA. Even my slow work 4G subscription can do stable 50/10 Mbps. 4G can easily sustain 150 Mbps.

> if you only have 2GB of cellular data each month

Did you forget a zero? Or do you mean a cheap prepaid card? That sounds pretty extreme. You can use 2 GB in a few minutes!


Nope I didn't forget a zero :) But even when you do get 20 and 40GB monthly caps it doesn't make that much of a difference.

And I've been getting 40-50 Mbit on HSUPA, now in Europe getting 10 out of a "4G" connection is hard.

I don't know what bubble you live in tbh.


> I don't know what bubble you live in tbh.

Shrug. 4G just happens to work for me I guess. There's nothing wrong with the technology, but a lot is wrong with some carriers.

I honestly don't understand how people put up with carriers like AT&T and Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. Their plans are (almost) 10 years behind in performance and 10 years ahead in price.

I have 50 down/10 up 4G from work and "unlimited Mbps"/50 Mbps private, practically it's about 100-150/50 Mbps. My phone is capable of 450 Mbps, that shouldn't be the limiting factor. Neither have caps nor throttling. Some months I use almost 100 GB. Ping to my home server is about 15-20 ms (fiber).




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