For me the good old days were the time spend with Amiga 500, discovering the world of Smalltalk, Oberon and all Xerox PARC research and other pioneers.
I got into UNIX via Xenix, and used almost every commercial flavour of it, but don't consider it the good old days.
The fact that POSIX is stuck in a PDP-11 world, is a proof that no big in the industry, with power to drive POSIX forward, is seeing as a relevant OS API for anything besides writing daemons and CLI applications accessible via SSH.
It's not really proof of that tho', it's proof that they see advantages in less portability between Unix variants, which is not entirely the same thing. There's nothing in it for Red Hat or Canonical shareholders if you decide to run FreeBSD instead, so why would they support the standard?
Yes and no. They both have the resources (money, engineers) to do alot in-house, and the market share that vendors will support them specifically. They can't not do this, they are under the same commercial pressure as other OS vendors.
If you want proof, just look at the systemd fiasco. Red Hat's way or the highway.
> If you want proof, just look at the systemd fiasco. Red Hat's way or the highway.
What kind of proof is this? systemd is the new standard across all major distros (except for stuff like Gentoo or Slackware, which is irrelevant in the targeted enterprise market anyway). And in the process, systemd steam-rolled over lots and lots of bizarre inconsistencies between distros.
If that's Red Hat's version of EEE, I'm very happy with it.
Yeah, I feel like there was a golden age between 1975 and 1985, and then things got stale.
Things started picking up around Linux time, though that age of goodness started getting stale around 2006 (maybe because linux started to get commercialized? Or maybe because everyone started getting interested in handheld devices for their 'fun' programming?)
For me the good old days were the time spend with Amiga 500, discovering the world of Smalltalk, Oberon and all Xerox PARC research and other pioneers.
I got into UNIX via Xenix, and used almost every commercial flavour of it, but don't consider it the good old days.
The fact that POSIX is stuck in a PDP-11 world, is a proof that no big in the industry, with power to drive POSIX forward, is seeing as a relevant OS API for anything besides writing daemons and CLI applications accessible via SSH.