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The author is wrong, there exist mechanisms to cast errors. But they all suck! It's all just guessing and grepping for -hopefully- unique error messages.


More importantly, they recently started trading in yuans.


US also bombed the harbor last night. Maybe that will change the currency back.


Source? How recently?


Mostly due to Trump's actions.


This has been made illegal years ago in Europe.


Legal in the EU but the consumer has to be notified about it.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/PETI-CM-580731...


Network locks are not illegal AFAIK, but consumers can request an unlock.


> Like its forerunner, the MC02, the new model is a subscription-based smartphone

stopped reading there


I really wonder what the hell that is even about. It doesn't just seem like unfortunate messaging.


If only they had a website where you could look up this information


What does moat even mean anymore


It's much easier to call some protocol "bad design", after the fact, than to develop something yourself.


Blocking a "rival" standard isn't necessarily petty censorship, it can also be spam control. I check the sub once in a while and I definitely do not want to see the same "but meshcore" whining over and over and over again.


Honestly .. MC is very successful in terms reliability doing it their way. Ignoring that will with full force doesn't make MT better.

Hopefully MT catches up. Their GPLv3 license is much more attractive to me than the MC MIT.


The subreddit isn't the place where MT development happens - it's where users discuss stuff they do. If there was the occasional discussion of MC vs MT, that would be very healthy and helpful for both projects. But this is not what happens. The sub drowns in toxic flamewars. There's nothing to be learned from that in terms of development, and the subreddit just becomes noise i.e. spam.

Re: licensing, last thing I read was the MC was... at least awkward: a "core" being "open", and then some "modules" that you need to pay for (to run on your device). I don't really care for a project like this, even if they backpaddled from this scenario. I'd rather wait for yet another third option, that is free open source and would have the supposed protocol improvements.

The good thing is, after all, that the same LoRa radio devices can be flashed with one or the other, if I understood correctly.


Both have GitHub projects that you can compile firmware from. One is MIT, the other is aggressively GPL


I think both the Meshcore and Meshtastic communities have a problem with people being passive aggressive instead of being direct and upfront about the different tradeoffs chosen by those projects, and their consequences for various use cases. Unless those attitudes improve, keeping the forums separated is unfortunately one of the more straightforward ways to avoid flamewars and repetitive, circular arguments.

There are significant downsides to the changes Meshcore made to achieve more reliability in some use cases; it's absolutely not an all-around improvement that Meshtastic necessarily needs to "catch up" to, and downplaying or hiding the downsides doesn't help anyone. At the same time, Meshtastic proponents should be more honest about the scalability limitations of their approach.


There's only so much bandwidth available so pick and choose what the firmware is good at. MeshCore went all in on messaging and tracing. Meshtastic is a more noisy protocol which is perfect for camping and hiking in small groups.


That's true. Toxic people destroy projects and their communities.


MQTT is used for map reporting, and sometimes as a "fallback" or to connect distant meshes.


Also very good way to instantly spend all your air time. Remember, legally you can only transmit at something like 10% of time. In some bands even less, afaik.


> Remember, legally you can only transmit at something like 10% of time

In Europe. See the duty cycle limits summarized at https://meshtastic.org/docs/configuration/radio/lora/#region


It's best not to retransmit MQTT. Unless you want to set up some very specific link between two meshes, or just some private or non-default channel.


I just want to share software with fellow nerds. I don't care about stars, community, getting famous, or getting a job.


Then define luck as "connecting with fellow nerds." Still works


So it's vibecoded?


it's named vibium for a reason.


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