I've only read Chiang's, "The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling" which was up for a Hugo a few years ago. I voted against it since it was bland. Are any of his other stories better?

Of course. Worse, they actually have two different strategic factors that play poorly together: 1.) Retain users 2.) Have a personal bias about what will offend users

These two items can magnify each other in a false direction as they attempt to retain users that they perceive they have.

Thanks for bringing that up. I had been unaware since I don't follow twitter much anymore. You are right that is amazingly vile.

Oh they are doing a terrible job. And one of the reasons I don't use a platform that thinks its ok to name groups things straight out of "Fahrenheit 451".

Or Facebook can take their thumbs off the scale on what is supposed to be friends sharing information. Do you realize how Orwellian it is for a big company to say friends Bobby and Sally have to be monitored in what they share? How does this not bother people?

I don't care if Bobby and Sally believe that we never made it to the moon and wear tin foil hats. It is _none of FB's damn business_. They are a _platform_ not the editors of all things true. They should not issue us all with truth detectors.

* No feature list * No game list * Confusing as to what this has to do with "rooms" * Demands I download a web app!?!??!!?

Go home FB. You're drunk.

Twitter where free speech isn't. There will be replacements and Twitter knows it.

It would be interesting to see how much twitters war against feelings and words is effecting their bottom line.

Indeed it would. It seems that after every purge they've fallen a bit farther. It seems very odd, on a platform dedicated to short witted public screeds, that they would get offended by...short witted screeds. Oh well.

I'm actually appalled that so many people make comments just like you have and show an ignorance of basic economics and would also assume that everyone can _turn down_ work.

Were you never a teenager? In fact these laws have made it prohibitive to higher local teen agers. Eventually, the trouble of hiring will overcome the initial capital outlay for robots (which can now even do berry picking). You are going to chase people out of work.

Learn about the subjects you are discussing (farming and economics) before coming to wild conclusions.

What on Earth are you talking about. Let's presume you are right and Turkey wasn't being kept out for things like, oh as another pointed out, an occupation of Turkey and Cyprus, how does blocking them from joining the EU make them less moderate? Does the EU have magic dust that effects religious outcomes?

I dont know. They were moderate, we said they dont belong to EU because they are muslim (lots of people said that), and they became fundamentalist.

It is true that fundamentalism is on the rise worldwide (also in christian countries) but my impression is that, in Turkeys case, it was the EU attitude which caused lots of turkish people to vote for a strong islamic president.

> it was the EU attitude which caused lots of turkish people to vote for a strong islamic president.

Or it was just a temporary aligning of views that Erdogan and AKP initially seemed to be moderates, but it turned out that the sheep is actually a wolf with a sheepskin. It happened in history already a few times.

Also, diluting the progressive thought of the EU would likely have prevented it from being an effective counterforce to radicalization. (Though it could have moderated things a bit in Turkey.)

Indeed, Hungary shows the EU's magic dust has little to no ability to induce moderation.

That's one example. There are other 27 (soon 26).

Dont get we wrong: I dont think it's magic, just than then, and for Turkey, it would have worked.

And more important: it would have been the right signal to send, to the whole world

I sincerily think that was our best chance, ever, to kill fundamentalism for good.

We will never know.

Well, we don't know what would have happened if Hungary wasn't a Member State.

It doesn't matter, since the topic was whether being a member state ensures moderation.

It doesn't, but it can help. Anyway, in case of Hungary, they have already been warned by the EU a couple of times. Time will tell how this evolves, but weakening the project as UK has done will for sure reduce the incentives to return to a more moderate path.

These free-market types, they are really wreaking the world. The 1% capitalism we have reached is putting a death sign in the fundamentalist market ideology, but they are for sure going down with a bang.