Since this thread is undoubtedly going to devolve into the usual whining about Remarkable that is entirely unrelated to the article at hand, and doesn't understand the intent of the devices, or is based on the entirely unnecessary subscription service, I'll add a positive contribution.
Since receiving the RMPP Move for Christmas, it has become my go-to daily device and other than the obtuse name, I am almost entirely pleased with it.
The writing experience is fantastic. I was skeptical of the pen change from the RM2 but it's been pleasant overall.
Its form-factor seems odd when you read the specs, but it works rather well in practice. It's easy to toss in a bag and go, and does fit in most of my pockets if I need to. It's much more convenient for traveling as an addition to the laptop.
It syncs with my RM2 with minimal issue with scale. Sometimes you have to zoom in but this is easy and natural.
The colors are a nice addition but hardly the main attraction.
The backlight makes it excellent for writing at morning or night in bed without disturbing the S.O..
The minimalism is a feature.
It does okay for PDFs, but that is far from its purpose.
I use it daily for notes, task management, and little printable logic games.
My only minor nits are: changing pens (for logic games mostly) takes more taps than on the RM2. The palm detection is somewhat lacking compared to the RM2 - it tends to change pages or change the zoom level unintentionally when writing on certain parts of the screen. This could be more about my usage of it. I really wish I could add links and/or a table of contents to notes on the device. I wish the zoom level would stick between pages or could be locked in for a document.
Same, I already had a reMarkable tablet and got the reMarkable Paper Pro Move as an impulse purchase (ignoring its ridiculously high price) expecting to return it within the 50-day return window, but the fact that it fits in my pocket (or “most of my pockets”, as you said) has made a huge difference in how much I use it and how I spend my time. The sync is also nice (I think it works up to some limit even without a paid subscription, though it turned out I had one grandfathered in); I can basically send webpages I’m reading to it using the browser extension (at least on desktop). On mobile it’s a bit more annoying, but e.g. I’ve printed long newsletters from the Gmail to PDF (paper size A6) and imported the PDF onto it.
It’s perfectly adequate for writing on, but so far I’ve almost never used the fact that it has (a rudimentary set of) colours, though.
Are there pens that work like Lamy Al-Star EMR pen, with a button to switch tools, etc, on the RMPP? I have been using my RM2 for years. Backlight would be nice, but not sure it's worth the trade off for me.
AFAIK this does not exist yet for the RMPP. It would be a nice addition and I would guess that they release something eventually.
If you are generally happy with the RM2 then the form factor is probably the only reason to upgrade or swap that ends up being worth it. Most Best Buys carry Remarkables and offer an opportunity to feel it before deciding.
I have been wanting a pocket-notebook-size tablet since the day I got my RM2. I've been considering the Move since it came out, but the stylus change was worrying me, and the price is pretty high -- I feel like I would have bought release day if they offered a lower priced monochrome one in the same form factor, especially if it used the RM2 stylus...
It's encouraging to hear you have had a good experience with it. Maybe I'll grab one if they ever go on sale!
Is there anything beyond your minor nits that you would caution someone like me about before buying?
The Paper Pro switched to AES like every other recent tablet out there instead of keeping the Wacom EMR, and it definitely takes a hit in almost every metric you can think of. Like accuracy, as TFA complains.
I frankly _cannot_ recommend the Paper Pro if you already have the 2. It is way too expensive for something that is almost a sidestep instead of an upgrade.
Needs a subscription for sync, the sync system is pretty basic, the web/desktop experience is poor, no support for things like Google Drive or other cloud storage, and generally very limited software experience on the device.
(This is not to say I fully agree with these, but these are the criticisms I see a lot online)
my only complaint has always been that the contrast between screen color and text color is worse than in other eInk devices and as a consequence need to either wear reading glasses which I tend not to like over time, or use it in direct light, which drastically decreases the utility.
Often when I say this on HN I get told reading is not the purpose of the device, which is really strange since it is one of the mentioned purposes of the device on their site, and also because I just generally find people who don't read what they're writing, or read the text they are making notes in, to be strange people.
on edit: Of course mine is from a few years ago, and have not purchased another for the reasons given above, but have looked at it in the store and it didn't seem to be improved, and obviously it is not the Pro Move under discussion here.
As a user that doesn't pay for the subscription, I use their Google Drive integration quite often. I believe they support Dropbox and OneDrive too, no?
“Why you fool, it's the educated reader who CAN be gulled. All our difficulty comes with the others. When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? He takes it for granted that they're all propaganda and skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out of windows and corpses found in Mayfair flats. He is our problem. We have to recondition him. But the educated public, the people who read the high-brow weeklies, don't need reconditioning. They're all right already. They'll believe anything.”
"The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day. I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false."
In a discussion of an article about encouraging fact-checking in writing, I wish you would have made your quotes informative by replacing "many wise people" with the actual names of who said them.
For everyone else: the first paragraph appears to be a quote of C.S. Lewis around 1945 [0], and the second, of Thomas Jefferson in 1807 [1].
> There's no good description of the actual ban here?
The first sentence of this article links to information about the ban itself.
Later in the article it summarizes how it is enforced.
> Schools have rolled out a range of strategies, with most schools either collecting phones at arrival and storing them in lockers or distributing magnetic pouches that have to be locked and unlocked at the beginning and end of the day.
>The first sentence of this article links to information about the ban itself.
That article gives little information that's not in the original one, even clicking through to the article linked in that linked article gives scant details.
A personal internet-enabled device is any electronic device not issued by a school or NYCPS program that can connect to the internet, allowing the user to access content online. Examples of these personal devices include:
* Communication Devices, such as cell phones, smartphones, and smartwatches.
* Computing Devices, such as laptops, tablets, and iPads.
* Portable music and entertainment systems, such as MP3 players and game consoles.
The statewide ban is a new thing, but phones were already banned when I went to school decades ago, along with gameboys, MP3 players, and all other electronics except a calculator. If you had it out in class, it would get taken away.
That kids were ever allowed smartphones to begin with is a regression from the status quo we had not long ago.
I think the other user's question is asking a broader question than you're answering. They likely know the statewide ban is new, but the school policy may not be entirely new.
Unlikely that phone usage was unlimited in class with no restrictions before the statewide ban.
I acknowledged that, but I was asking specifically about the article’s implication that phones were allowed in class. Read further down and there’s a comment from someone who said they finished their work and just had to stare at a wall instead of using their phone.
That’s what confuses me: Many of these articles are implying that phones were allowed everywhere previously, whereas my understanding was that the previous status quo was that they were only allowed in between classes, at lunch, or before/after school hours.
Yes. The Paper Pro (and presumably the Move) require you to explicitly enable developer mode in order to enable ssh access where older devices had it enabled by default. USB still works. It is, however, not easy to toggle dev mode on and off - so once you activate it you will probably keep it active.
Supernote has a similarly sized product if you want the format but with more software functionality.
There's also a company called Viwoods making "AI" enabled e-ink tablets. I have heard significantly less about them so far, but they have a mini version which is roughly e-reader sized.
Primarily, syncing your documents between multiple Remarkable devices and their apps on your phone. The page on their site for it spells out everything pretty well.
I asked a friend who bought the new remarkable. He likes it but he says his old one was quite easy to link to google drive but the new one is not like that. Is it the same experience as you have?
Since receiving the RMPP Move for Christmas, it has become my go-to daily device and other than the obtuse name, I am almost entirely pleased with it.
The writing experience is fantastic. I was skeptical of the pen change from the RM2 but it's been pleasant overall.
Its form-factor seems odd when you read the specs, but it works rather well in practice. It's easy to toss in a bag and go, and does fit in most of my pockets if I need to. It's much more convenient for traveling as an addition to the laptop.
It syncs with my RM2 with minimal issue with scale. Sometimes you have to zoom in but this is easy and natural.
The colors are a nice addition but hardly the main attraction.
The backlight makes it excellent for writing at morning or night in bed without disturbing the S.O..
The minimalism is a feature.
It does okay for PDFs, but that is far from its purpose.
I use it daily for notes, task management, and little printable logic games.
My only minor nits are: changing pens (for logic games mostly) takes more taps than on the RM2. The palm detection is somewhat lacking compared to the RM2 - it tends to change pages or change the zoom level unintentionally when writing on certain parts of the screen. This could be more about my usage of it. I really wish I could add links and/or a table of contents to notes on the device. I wish the zoom level would stick between pages or could be locked in for a document.
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