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This feels like classic Microsoft. Put some great marketing out there. , claim the victory and deliver the actual product months from now. This puts any other vendor or company in a bad place with investors and the public.

You have to love it. Shrewd as hell.


God, I miss Sierra games. Such a big part of my growing up.


I'm trying to find games for my kids that would have the same influence. Fortnite etc is all so popular - but I feel that Police Quest, Hero Quest etc are a big part of my logical reasoning skills I have today...


I found a few good Android games for my kids (god it's hard to get through all the ad-ridden garbage)

  * Monument Valley
  * I Love Hue
  * Battle of Polytopia
  * Grand Mountain Adventure 
  * Tiny Bubbles 
  * Kingdom Rush
  * Planes Control
  * Human Resource Machine
No quests however, so I would also welcome suggestions here


For real, kids games are absolute garbage. I would pay for a curated list of games that are engaging, require some amount of thought, but that are not massively stuffed with ads.


Big sierra fan her. For almost 20 years i was absent from video games until i became a father an play zelda - breath of the wild. It felt as great as kings quest 1.


I literally thought this exact sentence when I saw this article.


Doesn’t matter unless they follow through with this and are willing to give up revenue to do security. MSFT always puts this garbage out to safe face, but the organization always reverts to speed and money over anything else.

Untrustworthy. It’s wild how enterprises have overlooked the rampant problems at MSFT for decades.


That's not unique to Microsoft. It's a problem of the economic system. The only thing that's valued is how much money can be extracted by executives and shareholders.

Good security, quality products, and employee well being don't matter as long as the stock goes up. Experience has shown that having poor security practices doesn't affect companies' stock price negatively so why would they spend money to have better security? Is the US government going to stop using Microsoft 365? Nope. Is there an alternative where security is actually valued? Nope.

The solution is not a single executive at a single company sending out a memo full of platitudes but a change to the economic system such that product quality is valued over how much value can be extracted and sent to parasitic shareholders.


This doesn't seem true, reputation, status, credibility, etc., clearly have some nonzero value?

If anything, competitive people looking to climb the social ladder tend to be even more viscious when it comes to status games than the Gordon Geckos of the world.


> reputation, status, credibility, etc., clearly have some nonzero value?

Yes, the stock price. As long as number goes up, everything is fine.


Is this supposed to be ironic?

My point is that people clearly value things beyond the 'number that goes up', often to an even more intense degree.


People do, yes. But corporate executives and shareholders are not people and fundamentally do not have the capacity to care what "people" think or value.

The decision makers want the number to go up, and they want it to go up now, not ten years from now.

There's a very good reason that all of the biggest companies are eating themselves from the inside out right now. Making the number go up right now is far, far more valuable than making sure it stays up after they get their bonus.


Money for sure, but I don't think of Microsoft a moving relatively fast - at least by tech standards.


Not to mention they were out in their Paris availability zone for a month last year.


Did anyone catch that Elon Musk provided the fix. What?!


It's a good thing that's its against the law to use a fake name on the internet.

-Albert Einstein


Hi, this is Elon Musk himself. Please refrain from outing publicly my relaxing bug-fixing hobby. Thank you.


I can’t help thinking how tests like these could be abused by malicious governments around the world. I think I’ve been watching too much Black Mirror


70 hour work weeks because dimentia prevention? Only in Japan


Im not a mathematician, but does this have potential application in some Neural Networks and such where dangerous connections or isolated information flows could exist?


One of the key aspects of Ramsey theory is that is has basically no potential applications because the objects it talks about have trouble fitting in the observable universe.


Bingo. The for profit stuff was probably ok with the board to raise capital. But the closeness with Microsoft probably went too far for the board.


Occams razor. He probably pursued a sale to Microsoft without the boards approval. Hes buddy buddy with Satya. Board basically said no, thats not our mission. Firedd


Why would he want to sell to Microsoft. All that would do is put his leadership in jeopardy, and he wouldn't profit as he owns no equity.


Makes sense, but would this be so egregious that they had to fire him on the spot?


The equity explanation makes a lot more sense. If sama was "not candid" to the board about being the ultimate owner of OpenAI and his goal is to get unbelievably rich (he's already a billionaire and obsessed with money) they would have to fire him on the spot. Sam would immediately try to move against the board so they can't give him any window to make a counter-move. And if that means firing him on a Friday right before markets close, so be it.

If Sam made a deal with MSFT that required board approval they would be mad, but not this mad. The board feels betrayed, and Sam being the secret owner of OpenAI through the foundation checks all the boxes.


> Hes buddy buddy with Satya.

Why would he accept to work under Satya?


Meh, he could be co-ceo and head all AI operations and that will help Microsoft signal how serious they are about AI


Co CEOs never works, these are people with very strong ambitions, they dont like to share and it ultimately leads to conflicts.


That doesn't mean companies don't do it all the time.


Occam's razor: duped the investors about the technical and financial prospects of the company. No AGI next year (or ever).


It has to be something time sensitive or they would never fire him in this way. Also Sutskever is on the board, who has as much understanding of how far away AGI is as anyone on Earth.


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